Taking a more aggressive stance than when she was running for OC Supervisor, at yesterday’s Westminster City Council meeting Dina Nguyen spoke out against the proposed bridge (artist’s rendering, above) across Bolsa Avenue, even though the Council already pulled the item from the agenda.
The council was supposed to discuss and vote up-or-down on a proposal by the County to pay for and build a pedestrian bridge across Bolsa Avenue. The bridge would be, in all fairness, exactly where the most pedestrians would cross, right in front of Asian Village Mall (“Phuoc Loc Tho” to Vietnamese).
However, the bridge being there would link two shopping malls, one owned by and the other managed by Bridgecreek, the same company that once banned Andy Quach‘s political signs on its properties.
The bridge, dubbed “Freedom Bridge,” is a cornerstone of OC Supervisor Janet Nguyen‘s agenda and electoral platform. As a result, in addition to all the reasons people may have to support or oppose the bridge, their feelings for Janet, one way or the other, play a role as well.
Back to the Westminster City Council. As soon as the meeting began, Mayor Margie Rice, who was the one putting it on the agenda, proposed to pull it. Apparently, the members had a problem with one sentence in the county’s proposal. The proposal stated that County CEO Thomas Mauk had “negotiated” with City Manager Ray Silber, but apparently there couldn’t have been any negotiations. It seems such negotiations would have violated some laws or another. And since nobody should be violating anything — well, you know how it goes.
So the motion to pull the agenda item passed 4-0, with Frank Fry (who’s up for reelection) abstaining.
But the motion was made after people have signed up to speak, so they still spoke.
Some were for, some were against the bridge. And then Dina came to the podium.
Dina, of course, is a councilwoman in the neighboring city of Garden Grove. She spoke forcefully against the bridge, which begs the question: Why bother, when the item’s been pulled?
Anyway, so Dina’s points were, in random order: That the bridge doesn’t solve Bolsa traffic problems; that the bridge will attract drug users and the homeless; and that it really should be on Beach Boulevard near her office.
drug dealers and homeless? does that mean her brother might be tempted to hang out on the bridge and sell drugs to the homeless?
No, my concern is when Janet’s mad/drunk disoriented white boy friend jumps off from the Bolsa’s “free flying bridge” one night…. and barely surviving…but killing the passenger of the on coming vehicle,
Which city or county should carry the liability insurance?
I think it was wise for Dina to speak against “BIG LIABILITY BRIDGE”.
Initial $3 million plus $100 million lawsuit means straight to the bankrupcy for average sized city.
“No, my concern is when Janet’s mad/drunk disoriented white boy friend jumps off from the Bolsa’s “free flying bridge” one night…. and barely surviving…but killing the passenger of the on coming vehicle, Which city or county should carry the liability insurance? Initial $3 million plus $100 million lawsuit means straight to the bankrupcy for average sized city.”
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Your hypothetical would leave the individual’s estate liable, not the City/County (notwithstanding the fact that lawyers can name whoever they want as defendants.) The better example here is if the bridge collapses, killing unemployed protesters, who’s on the hook? The City/County likely if tender the defense to the bridge builders pursuant to an indemnification agreement. If there is no such agreement (which is unlikely), the City has a self-insured retention, and excess carriers, and possibly coverage beyond that. That’s assuming your plaintiff’s counsel can get pass the several tort immunities government entities enjoy.
Try again.
And if we’re adopting Jung Kim’s argument that government’s shouldn’t build because doing so subjects an entity to liability, should governmental entities not build schools, hospitals, roads, etc.? Lastly, And isn’t there currently bridges all over OC/Westminster which subjects the entities to liability?
I don’t care if they build this eyesore or not, just thought I’d get my two/three cents in.
Your two or three cents is all it’s worth…… we often see drivers filing law suit against cities for failing to maintain safe(?) street rail guards! Someone gets hurt from this bridge I am positive city or county will have to be get involved.
The $3 million Janet’s bridge that only benefits a shopping center owner and her political campaign contribution book …….but the liability to maintain it is passed on to the city (with additional tax payer’s burden) is absolutely WRONG!
Spin it, torch it and boil it but the answer is still No to this pathetic wasteful bridge plan! Unless Janet and the shopping center owner use their own funds to build/maintain the bridge.
I have a great solution!
1)The shopping center owner builds the bridge 2) then Janet uses her own funds to maintain it and lastly 3) Andrew Do pays annual liability insurance for the bridge
Do I hear big YES from everyone?
Actually, at a billing rate of $380/hr; .1 hour to generate the three posts; my contribution is worth $38.00. But do continue the ad hominem stuff, they keep me entertained while I toil.
People don’t mind paying even $500.00 an hour for the right advices…. however in your case, potential client can lose more than he or she has bargained for with your wrong advices!
Let’s settle….. by you buying me a dinner!
Actually I think we can get a unlimited free legal services from Andrew Do ….at his sandwich shop/office in the city of Stanton.
NOTE: No legal service is available during peak lunch hours.
What I want tot know is where does Lin Ho stand on this bridge to no where?
People don’t mind paying even $500.00 an hour for the right advices…. however in your case, potential client can lose more than he or she has bargained for with your wrong advices!
Let’s settle….. by you buying me a dinner!
__________________________________________________________________Actually, our 700+ attorneys provide fairly solid advice. And yes, some pay north of $500.00/hr. I assure you, a vast majority of them complain about the bill. I’m sorry you can’t afford our services, but it’s no reason to get personal. We do a fair amount of pro bono work for indigent clients, so let me know if you need some assistance.
Oh Soap 64,
Did I complained about the cost? NO!
Am I more interested in the quality of the service provided? YES!
What is the cost for giving wrong advices? A DINNER!
Oh Soap 64, I don’t need your asistance but you do owe me a dinner. Got it?
If I needed a free service or a food, I’d rather go see Andrew down the street.
Im not sure if the Freedom bridge is going to solve traffic problem. This bridge will attract protesters. They will stand on the bridge with their flag and banner in hand and camp out there 24/7. These are the homeless Dina refering. Base on the render this bridge, how the handicaf get on the bridge? Where is the access ramp or wheel chair ramp? Talking about maintenance, Dina Quach and other Trannies had supported the Dragon welcome truss gate at Bolsa & Magnolia. This steel truss beam will cost a lot to maintain. Who is going to pay for this? These idiots just want to sabota whatever that has Janet stamp on it. I think the bridge should be paid for by the shop owners in the area. They are the one who create the traffic problem. Im not sure how much tax $$$ they had generated for the city.
Anh Tu,
Obviously you can’t read or don’t understand facts very well. The Trannies did not sabotage this stupid bridge, if you can even call it a bridge. Either you are Janet herself or Andrew Do blogging on this blog, you do sound desperate and go way out of your way to to blame everything on the Trannies, which is very wishful in your thinking.
Get one thing straight — Janet Nguyen and her sycophants Andrew Do and Nick le Cong made the most fundamental but elementary mistake on this issue. They accepted state bond money and tried to unilaterally ram a bridge down the City of Westminster, which is independent of the County and was not even consulted on the feasibility of this so-called project. Community input was zero as well. Good government at its worse.
Janet Nguyen and Andrew Do just gottheir heands burned on this whole matter. But it’s a good, hard lesson for them that you have to work and cooperate with people to get things done, instead of hiding and evading so that you can claim credit and score political points. So far, Janet and Andrew are eating goose eggs on this project! People out there are not fooled by this bridge charade.
Anh Tu is pretty lame on his pitch for Janet’s “FREE BRIDGE for Frank Jao”.
There are abundant rumors linking few pro commie business interests cooking up “deals” with Janet Nguyen and unfortunately this bridge is viewed in a similar perspective by many concerned community citizens.
Yeah rumors also said that these pro commie businesses stop pouring their $$$ to Trannies. These $$$ went to Janet instead. Why didn’t Van return the contribution knowing they came from these pro commie businesses. Andy Quach & Tri Ta are just jealous of Janet accomplishment.
Anh Tu” aka ashamed Janet’s political prostitute……………tell Janet it’s ok to share commission from the commies with Andrew Do Do.
No really,
Im serious. Where does Lin Ho stand on this bridge?
Seriously folks, your comments from Jose S. at the start with the exception of one or two intelligent remarks are really displaying your ignorance of government processes.
First let’s start with the fact that this bridge was talked about between the City and the County. Full “negotiations” apparently didn’t take place but there was communication on the subject between the Mayor and the 1st District Supervisor. The subject of the bridge was brought up at previous council meetings as well, no matter how much some council persons wish to deny it.
Second, if you got a copy of the agenda item 5.3 of the City Council Meeting of 8/27/08 and read the cover letter from County Executive Officer Thomas Mauk, and the accompanying Agreement No. D08-043 you might be able to understand the contents which delineate the responsibilities of the parties.
The land/street where the bridge would be built would be ceded over to the county only while it’s being built. That means the county covers all liability instances and holds the city harmless from same. (No I am not a lawyer).
When the bridge is completed, inspected and signed off as completely safe by the engineers, the land and street is then ceded back to the City. Yes, then the city is responsible for maintenance of the bridge.
Remember that there was a group that wanted to build “archways” in the same spot, but they would have only served a decorative purpose and again, the city would have been responsible for the street and any liability during the building of that; and the maintenance thereafter.
I have not seen a rendering of the bridge, except for on the Bolsavik’s web site here in this article. But I know there are pedestrian walkways that are constructed that have handicap ramps that do not involve heavy maintenance such as an elevator would.
So it appears the trannies’ have come here to comment badly about the 1st district supervisor. I think the comments from Dina Nguyen exhibit her basic personality, which by the way, no one should call “sweet”. To come to another city to attempt a public “catfight” with her former rival in an election is really, well, sad. The First District Supervisor of course would not engage in such low level activity; and left as she shook hands with supporters on her way out after the agenda item was pulled.
Remember the days when most of the state money went to Santa Ana and other surrounding cities? Westminster has a chance to get some of that money now, and I am amused at the infighting of the various “groups” that never seem to know when they should join forces on something and put aside their personal anger on things that can not be changed.
I think you should not lose your heritage by being with a white boy friend….. how is Vietnamese American Woman title instead?
Thanks for the info. on how “free bridge for Jao” would benefit primarily the shopping center owner himself without any costs.
All the construction and the maintenance fees are brilliantly divided among state tax payers and Westminster city hall (again, with our tax money)
The whole project is apparently is lopsided only benefiting Janet’s uncle Frank Jao!
Janet, stop playing “splitting game” by confusing your district residents by labeling them with city boundaries.
Us= Westminster
Them = Santa Ana
Don’t you represent both cities in your supervisorial capacity?
Many latino elected officials are already upset with Janet’s racial motivated decisions ……including this “Frank Jao’s bridge”
Janet has been keep making wrong decisions as a Supervisor and it’s hurting our Viet community’s image!
Has anyone seen Lin Ho around? I mean seriously did she get lost on her way to GG or something?
Jung Kim is still apparently hallucinating.
Jung Kim just tried to confuse everybody. When you call somebody name after she wrote a long comment to clear things up, you know which side Jung Kim is (the looser side, the Dina side, that is) . Btw I don’t who is American Woman is, but a nick is just a nick, and we are all American, different heritage that ‘s but nonetheless you got to remember you are American .
Hong Bang, ask pathetic Vivian who is Janet…….. she will say Janet is her soul mate!
There is cerainly a age gap between these two but some girls in love can even overcome the whole generation differences.
Who is Hong Bang? An american who can’t speak english and shops at Viet markets exclusively.
Jung Kim had too much kim-chi, LAO.
Only confused one here is Vivian…. trying her best to baby sit Janet with garbage of lies.
How can some one defend the Janet’s uncivilized character?
I think American woman is more well known as American “Old Political Trash” who is keep losing against our viet candidates.
Hey Over Bite, go get your denture fixed before sticking in your rear end to be torched with cow dong flame!
Neglected Janet by GOP might vote for Obama in November and her “go- for” boy Andrew Do may change his party affiliation to Dem again!
They call this american woman a “farmer Vivian with half mile tooth gap” has no chance in her bid for the public office in OC.
Vivian should be running in Iowa to be the “top state cow milker”
dina just love the attention that’s all. she’s a very manipulative and shockingly devious individual.
C. Vo must love Janet………who hates attention because she works behind closed doors to waste our tax payer’s money to serve her own interests.
Dung “poop” Kim is not a woman, it’s a homosexual…
Don’t pay attention to Dung “poop” Kim say.
Over bite is actually a pregnant chimp!
Hey Dung “poop” Kim, Why wanna be somebody else? Why change name?
Just come out the closet, It’s o.k be a homesexual it’s not too bad,
I understand and feel sorry for you. It hard to live with confused yourself.
RECALL Janet & RECALL Van…..send all there law breaking supporters to jail. Yous DO NOT own these town. Too bad Jannies and Vannies are all so comical..when you take an objective look. Too Jung Kim…you obviously have way to much time on your hands..get a life.
Keep on hoping. Your call for a recall is too funny.
lottapoop, forgot to locate your toilet again? Go tell Janet you want to put her in county jail tonight…right next to your cell!
How shortly does the risk trial expire?