Reg poll: Viets STILL think gay marriage a-OK
A poll opened 11 days before Election Day shows that Vietnamese-Americans are still not opposed to gay marriage.
Admittedly non-scientific and with small sample size, the poll on the OC Register’s OC Pulse shows that Viet sentiment toward gay marriages has not changed much since the day the California Supreme Court found that gay men and women have a right, protected by the constitution of the state, to get married.
Back in June (click here), an OC Pulse poll found that 70% of Viet respondents support gay marriage. Of the 30% that oppose, only 10% feel strongly enough about it to plan to vote against someone who supports gay marriage.
Now OC Pulse just asked the question again – sort of. The new poll, opened on October 24, asks about Proposition 8, which would ban gay marriages in California.
Click on the image to see the full poll result.
The position taken by the Viet respondents in the new poll falls somewhere between that of Republicans and Democrats as a group, and is consistent with the responses in June: A 58% majority plans to vote against Prop 8 and protect gay marriage; a 42% minority plan to vote for and ban gay marriage.
To go to the OC Pulse web page, click here, then click on the arrow by the date below “Choose a previous poll” and scroll down to October 24.
Yeah right!, we are ok with gay marriage as long as it doesn’t involve our family members or our friends.
We truly don’t hope our children get to learn about it in their classrooms
Vote YES on Prop.8!
Yo Jung Kim, how are you going to marry your father if you vote yes?
YES on Prop.8 protects traditional marriage… marriage between man and woman!
The institution of traditional marriage (i.e. between one man and one woman) emanates from something transcending our passing political institutions, and indeed the State of California and the United States of America themselves, and simply cannot be unilaterally altered by any judicial body or anyone else for that matter.
Proposition 8 is a regrettably necessary measure to restore the true and time honored definition of marriage in the eyes of our State. A State that believes same-sex couplings constitute “marriage” implicitly – and sooner or later, explicitly – denies the role of all faith communities that adhere to traditional morality and values in public life. Please exercise your citizenship and vote this coming week. The passage of Proposition 8 is an absolute imperative. Vote YES on Proposition 8!
This is not a valid conclusion to arrive at Bolsavik. The sample size is too small. Only 12 votes in a non-scientific poll is not a reliable poll sample to arrive at the conclusion that Viets support same sex marriage.
if it were a telehone poll done by Viet language pollsters from Ngoi Viet AND Viet bao, it would have more credibility. But this sample of 12 votes in an online poll wityh no way to verify if the subjects are actrually Vietnamese is not a credible source.
I think the religious Right should embrace gay people and, for that matter, gay marriage. After all, he created gays. But if he created people in his image, then that means part of God is gay. Now, it’s safe to spread the word around that God’s gay for gays.
Paul has a valid point. The survey would have to involve a random selection of hundreds of people, conducted “live” by telephone, and in the Viet language to obtain an accurate picture of the community’s feelings on such a sensitive and controversial subject.
On-line polling tends to be too erratic and often skewed. For these, and other reasons, organizations such as Gallup still conduct their polls in person or over the telephone.
JB, If “traditional” marriage is an institution that transcends government, why do you need a constitutional amendment to define marriage and “restore” the true meaning of marriage? If it’s transcendent, isn’t it between me and my church?
BTW, the wording of the original CA law regarding marriage was neutral. Restoring the actual language would make it actually neutral. Also, government is about checks and balances. The role of the judicial body is to uphold the law and constitution and can, therefore, simply act unilaterally if it determines that a person’s rights are denied.
And why would gay marriage affect the institution of traditional marriage? You can still marry your partner of the opposite sex, right? What makes you so insecure about gay marriage? How does it really affect your marriage? If somehow your heterosexual marriage is affected by two guys getting hitched, then you and your partner need couples counseling, not the government to deny these guys their rights.
Bolsa Choke, If two guys are getting hitched or having a sex…… good for them!
but we don’t call it a marriage!
The government will still let these 2 guys hitched whenever it pleases them even after the passage of Prop.8! Do not worry…their gay pleasure right will never be denied.
Nguyen Chow…… How does gay people look? God created everything in this universe but we are responsible for our own acts .
We need to go beyond gay marriage.
Because Jung Kim should have the right to marry his pet Vietnamese pot belly pig, Honey Buns.
Dammit, we just can’t deny love.
Correction to:
Yes to Marriage for Mentally Ill and Animals Proposition Says:
October 29th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Jung Kim had a gender operation and married his father.
i eat paste.
Dung Kim,
Gay people make a conscientious choice to love the person that they love. The only problem with that is that God put them in the wrong body. Since God is omnipotent and omnipresent, therefore he does not make mistakes. If God does not make mistakes, then God put them in the wrong body for a purpose. You do not know what that purpose is because God works in mysterious ways. Since I am not God’s creature, I can objectively conclude that God wants his creatures – you – to accept gay people because God is also gay. He’s God; he can be gay and straight at the same time.
Yo Jung Kim! Would it cool to see you behind bars? It would be priceless to see you have your intellectual discussion “orally” with these inmates. Before I forget, your dad can be your cell mate too and join in the fun.
Man,
The discussion on this blog seems to descend fuckin rapidly on every topic no matter what.
The fact is, this post is misleading. The poll was done online and with no controls or treatment. It is a poll frequented by a small group of people, and if any, an even smaller group of Vietnamese voters.
The smal sample size negates this poll. The manner in which it is conducted negates this poll. There are no quality controls in place to guarentee the sample population, size, and universe within that population.
If I were to guess, I would say that Art Pedroza, and Chris Prevatt are two of the 12 “Vietnamese” that participated in this “poll”.
Paul @ October 29th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
I am merely following Jung Kim’s lead.
To those wanna be Jung Kims……. you guys have long way to go… maybe 1000 miles….just to take a sniff of my crums!
Prop. 8 will make sure our human species to survive in the future.. just like you had mom and dad to create your “being”!
Those who believe they are in the “wrong body” , transfer your malfunctioning brain cavity to a lab for re examination.
Hey paste clan…..your face is fully covered with your coveted paste and it stinks!
Read many more books and be enlightened ……then you may follow me with some positive vision.
nguyen chow chow…..keep dripping diseased mulky fluid out of your disfigured nostrils…..
Making your mixed,damned pit bull family tree proud! Salud!
Well, inquiring minds are wondering, guessing and hoping to find/see me..Jung Kim. I am everywhere……. yes even inside of your conscience.
Let the truth to be told without hindrance of ignorant minds and I think this is the fair description of Jung Kim’s true identity.
I agree that the sample size is not large enough to be conclusive.
However, let me attempt to enlighten Jung Kim and his supporters.
Your view on homosexuality is flawed base on your “body..malfunctioning argument.”
Scientifically, medically, and psychologically, there is absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality. If you believe in science and not your fairy tale bible, then you wouldn’t be making such misinformed and uneducated argument.
And what does it matters to you if “two guys are getting hitched.” Only those who are so insecure with their own their own “institution” that they have to come up with a propostion to protect it. There are overwhelming stable gay marriages that are just as stable or more so than the “traditional” marriage.
Gay marriage being taught in school? That’s absurd and a LIE! Just ask any teachers.
If Prop.8 is not passed ………it is forseeable our kids will be taught against their traditional family values… including the gay marriage issue !
It will certainly add confusion to the tender minds of our children.
Vote YES on Prop.8.
Confusion or DISCRIMINATION? I believe children are much more intelligent and open-minded than most narrow-minded adults.
Let your intelligent children schedule their own daily rituals……how many would prefer to spend 8 hours a day in the classrooms?
You will raise a open minded – rascals instead!
Vote YES on Prop.8 !
Open-minded- rascal is free to digest ideas and empowered with multiple views to form a balance decision.
Daily rituals? Ha! If you teach your children that learning is a daily ritual like a religion, then good luck. In a classrooms with great teachers 8 hours a day is not a bad thing.
This is not a point to inquire the validity of the traditional male and female marriage union but more along a finer point of the legal protection from the legal prespective of what a marriage is. Being married, the spouse who has sacrificed his/her employment to raise the couple’s child or children is entitled to the working partner’s wealth made during the union.
Because a gay marriage is not legally recognized, the gay spouse who sacrificed may or may not be entitled to the other partner’s wealth made during the time of the union, while guaranteed under common law for heterosexual partners.
This problem is not easily rectified because by accepting the existence of gay people then society has to accept gay union, and the two do not go hand in hand with religious and societal norms.
On one hand, society tries to address most of social issues through laws, but making exceptions for the minor issues forces society to accept such a lifestyle as common practice when science has yet to identify what the state of being gay is.
Is it genetics? Environmental? Experimental? Casual?
This one gimme is for Jung Kim; his intention meant to be this but came out wrong.
Something is wrong, when society and government allow deranged, whacked out individuals like Jung Kim the right to marry, but not provide the same right to normal, contributing gay members of our society. Vote no on 8.
I think it has to do with the Puritanical beliefs we Americans uphold. I don’t know your background but we consider ourself devout Christians.
Also, as we start deviating from the traditional definition of marriage and the legal entitlements, when do we stop?
I don’t know the solution, just expressing my little knowledge.
Ummm… Science have answered all the questions of homosexuality. Ask your doctors what their medical textbooks said about it.
The slavery in US history is a great example when society discriminates. Minor issue, I think not. Why can’t people just look at a human being as another human being and leap beyond the hierarchy of traditional or gay.
Yeah, your puritanical beliefs enable years of enslaving fellow human beings. Wake up. We don’t stop. We just continue to live beyond the stagnant teaching of a book.
Easy there Vistavista and see where you live and how this country was founded. If you don’t like it, you know what to do, right? Don’t play the victim card and enjoy the benefits of society.
Ok, tell me what human race that has not enslaved others or its own kind? Let’s get real here.
The last time I read US history, it was the escape of discrimination and the search for freedom that led many pioneers to cross the Atlantic. But the country was found on freedom, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Because we learn the horror and lessons from history, we should not continue the discrimination.
I have considered many time to move to Europe. And if this election goes GOP, I might just do so.
I don’t consider myself the victim as I have benefit from society. Therefore I sought to do my best to improve it so that others can benefit.
I don’t need to name a specific human society that does not enslave others as I am not proud of it. Just because history had not dealt us a good hand doesn’t mean we can stop working to make it better.
Yo Jung Kim! When are you rearing your ugly head? MIA? Come out of the closet and contribute, boy!