With the mail-in ballots all counted, Westminster City Council candidate Truong Diep is still in third place. On Friday, Diep made up only 6 votes, garnering 28 to second-place winner Penny Loomer’s 22.
The Registrar’s office is moving on the election-day paper ballots and the provisional ballots.(*)
Anyway, so some people have been saying that all this is pointless because an election this close will surely end up in a recount. So, what does it matter who’s leading, right?
Wrong.
Many states have election laws that say, if the election is extremely close – usually set at 0.5% difference or less – then the voting authorities will conduct an automatic recount.
Not California. You can have an election decided by 1 vote out of 100,000, and there’s no recount unless someone requests it.
Any California voter, whether or not a resident of the area affected by the vote, can request a recount, for any and no reason.
The person making the request can specify the order in which the precincts will be recounted.
But whoever makes the request must pay for it.
This becomes the great gamesmanship of recount calculus. Will you spend thousands on a recount that will make no changes? And if you do, which order of recount will you request?
A candidate who loses a close race and suspects that he will gain more vote than his opponent in, say, the East side, will request that those precincts be recounted first. As soon as he catches up, he can call off the recount, and it will stop right then and there, making him the winner. (BTW, like the NFL’s instant-replay rule, if a recount changes the result, then the requestor doesn’t have to pay.)
His winning opponent can also do the same, with a different order of precincts to be counted. Theoretically there can potentially be two recounts going on at the same time. But, a recount is very risky for the winner, with everything to lose and very little to gain.
A recount in Westminster, depending when it is stopped, may cost anywhere between $3000 and $6000.
The big question now is, will Diep go for it?
(*) Provisional ballots are ballots cast by people who showed up and there’s something wrong, like their names are not on the voter roll, or they already requested a mail-in ballot and then showed up at the polling booth anyway. Instead of turning people away, poll workers give them a provisional ballot. These must first be verified to make sure the person is eligible to vote, that there’s no double-voting, etc. before they count.
Election-day paper ballots are from people who came to the polling station but didn’t want to deal with the machines and voted with a paper ballot instead. What’s funny about these ballots is that the Registrar’s office calls it the “eday ballot” and the “e” prefix (which stands for “election”) makes it sound like something electronic, not paper.
I thought this was what originated the term ” back door dealing ” :
PDF]EXHIBIT 1 INTRODUCTION Respondent Andy Quach was…
$3000 in campaign contributions from Frank Jao, a party to a proceeding … involving Frank Jao, in violation of section 84308, subdivision (c) of the …
http://www.fppc.ca.gov/Agendas/04-05/01-205Exh.pdf – Similar pages
http://www.fppc.ca.gov/Agendas/04-05/01-205Exh.pdf
The “back door dealing” is actually related to Janet offering free bridge to YES, famous contributor Frank Jao’ shopping center in Westminster!
Right Jung Kim, while Roxanne offers links, you offer nada…typical Truong Diep response.
Well, that’s what I meant. One politician went bad & the rest of them followed .
Yung Kim, don’t forget you still owed me a dinner
Only link Andrew Do Do knows is a sausage link from his sandwich shop.
Licentious sexual innuendos on this blog :
Political expressions are indeed manifestations of repressed sexual urges of primal predator aggression. The polarity between the need for physical fulfillment and domination, and the necessity of social coercion and conformity.
* Basic lesson in profiling a suspect.
Wow, some under informed and mis guided individual is describing his marriage desires in a poetic approach. I say cockroach!
Roxanne offer links…….but I offer real hotdogs.
How about that ? You loony tunes! Have a good laugh for a day.
@ country first,
IS THAT you . . . wanna be JOE THE PLUMBER ? I THOUGHT you SOUNDED FAMILIAR. I GUESS you CHANGED YOUR NAME HUH ? ARE you STILL IN THERAPY ? you STILL SOUNDED REALLY WEIRD THOUGH SO DO ME A FAVOR & GO BACK OK, SERIOUSLY dude, GET SOME HELP WOULD you !
Jung Kim, if you’re going to be my boss you’d have to be alot smarter than that. I don’t get along well with stupid people either, just so you know . . .
Joe the Plumber is busy working on the Andrew Do Do’s toilet…….lesson #1: too many links can plug your toilet. Ask link plenty Andrew Do Do bird.
Roxanne, I need an application first from you……yes, picture must be included.
Let me think about it Jung Kim, cause with all the identity thefts going around, I’m not sure if you could be able to protect my info. It seemed that you’re associating with lots of dishonest people.
Yes, for instance, I often dine at Andrew Do Do’s shop in Stanton.
And I was linked to Janet in my college years.
Well, you intended to left out a few . . . and those are the ones I worry about so if you’re smart like me , try to stay away from them otherwise you’ll always have to watch over your shoulder from time to time.
Roxanne, do not worry…………. I am the official guru and I can not be bought or be influenced by anyone or anything. However, I do thank you for your geniune concern.
Yes…. I owe you a dinner.
Now Truong Diep is up by 65 votes.
I will buy you a dinner and some! What a great night!
@jung kim 1:24pm,
The day is almost over & when you’re done laughing, make sure you review the link I sent again so you know that all of us wasn’t laughing with you but were all laughing @ you. And to be sure you have understood what you have read, ask Dina to translate for you ( word by word ) to make sure she didn’t leave all the good stuffs out.
Get a damn job Roxanne Chow Chow. What are you doing other than to build your invisible archway?
How’s the Planning Commision coming along in Westminster? How many small businesses have you killed and how many Viet applicants are your victims?
Get a life and be productive, instead of being destructive.
Roxanne, your thick sausage links were mainly responsible for Andrew Do Do’s toilet blockage……… and Joe the plumber is recommending you to go on immediate DIET!
Eat less crap and pass less crap links down the toilet. Got it?
I can’t imagine Roxanne laughing at me all day……her bottom stuck to the inner circle of toilet seat……eventually causing an emergency service call to the Joe the plumber.
I hope her friends…Janet and Andrew do not learn same bad, nasty habit . It’s costly and it can cause permanent browny stain on your hefty bottom.
Food for thought!
Why can’t we just celebrate happy election results with love and support for the winning Viet candidates?
Good morning to all of JK’s fans, sorry for not being here with you guys last night cause I took JK’s advice & went out celebrating. Whew, I got such a good time
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By looking at the blog here, it seemed like you guys didn’t do much beside staring @ the computer screen while eating pastes, drinking your own piss & smelling your own fart all night huh. Should have call me, I would have invited Dizzzzy Dinnn from the “Cougars” Club to come & give you guys a good time. BTW, that’s not her real name, it’s her Club name. She’s pretty good, not exactly the ” wife ” material type, but if you just want to have fun, going all the way then she’s ” IT “. I heard she was so good that some local politician actually gave her twenty grands for tip. Imagine that
So next time, call me when you have a party ok, . . . adios for now!
Oh Roxanne, you are one nasty bitch. Getting a bit catty with Dina are you? Or are you a man in woman’s clothing? All that celebrating and no hits last night making you a bit grouchy? Take two Mydols and check in with your Psychiatrist today for a sanity check up. You are one sick individual.
Haha . . . Haha . . . good morning to you too ! ! ! Rough night ? ? Go back to bed & don’t worry about me getting catty with Dina, she’s a Cougar remember ( BTW, how did you know her real name, are you working at that club too? )
Roxanne, we can not invite you to our party……….only innocent girls are invited.
Isn’t your nick name a “Panama Canal”? Open to all men?
I guess 5th Floor staffers get 2hr. lunch time to compensate for $9.50 hr. pay.
Haha . . . Haha . . . there you are . . Good afternoon to you too Jung Kim
. Miss me already, I just took 2hr. lunch caussssse……….. I can :p Anyway, can you believe all your fans are attacking me for sending you the ” link ” ? I would have sent them one too but honestly I thought that you would share, my bad 
Anyway, thank you for not inviting me to the party cause eating paste & smelling fart is not my kind of party and I hate to say no to you, you know that however, feel free to call me anyway cause I don’t mind hooking you up with Dizzzzy Dinnn cause I’m pretty sure innocent girls are very unlikely to eat paste or willing to smell fart. And since you forgot , I’ll remind you again that “Panama Canal ” was Dizzzzy’s old club name. Her current boyfriend made her change it because he said that it reminded him of her past. We can’t blame the guy !
Jung Kim’s ugly, deformed head has a Panama Canal starting from one ear to the other.
Roxanne, put your right hand into your left pants pocket for a minute……… do you feel small wimsy tooth pick? YES, you must be a boy! Congrats!
Fat Chicken must be hurt…………. but not fried yet.
Keep yapping and you will be served to the homeless in coming Thanksgiving day!
Jung Kim, you’re such a naughty boy !!! May be in your case, you have to put your hand in to find it . Usually, people could just be able to see how big it is underneath my pants. Don’t be so envy though , yours will grow into soon
Keep dreaming………… only to realize it’s the screw driver you are carrying inside of your pants.
Haaaaaaa . . . no dreaming Jung Kim. You should know me by now, I’m not a talker like you. When I said something, I do have ” link ” to prove it . Now take that screw driver out of your pants and go wash your hand before you put it back on the computer. I told you eventually, yours will grow into soon so stop playing with yourself and talk to me.
Your sausage link can only prove what you had for dinner last night!
If Andrew Do Do is fully developed/matured man………….. why does he need Janet ?
Damn you, Jung Kim. Here’s the ” link ” again. Do what you have to do but make sure you’re getting it this time, stupid people are making me so frustrated:
http://www.fppc.ca.gov/Agendas/04-05/01-205Exh.pdf
I don’t know whether Andrew Do Do need Janet or not, but I sure do know that I need you Jung Kim. So can you stop wondering about them & just concentrate on us ?
Isn’t this about how investor Frank Zao was persuaded to support Janet in exchange for the $2.5 mil. dollar bridge to be constructed on his shopping center in Westminster?
This is a old story in Little Saigon now!
Roxanne, your sausage link is so flexible, you can wrap it around your neck all day long……. stinking the whole city!
Frank the God father = Janet + Andrew Do Do ( his little children)
Oh, typical Jung Kim. I’m going to lend you my ” link ” as many times as you need it until you could get one of your own, cause you know I love you
http://www.fppc.ca.gov/Agendas/04-05/01-205Exh.pdf
** Warning, it very real & plexible so be careful & not choking yourself w/ it .
I think those of you who aren’t man enough to use your own name ID to blog then don’t, I don’t believe that ROXANNE CHOW would waste her time on this blog chatting with an idiot like yourself Jung Kim. Stick with what’s really important, why are we wasting time talking about her personal life?
You people just have way too much time on your hand. All of you need to get a real job. At least I hold an important postition, I am your councilwoman and will be for at least for the next 2 years. Other than that, I am also an attorney with a TV show. I am probably the only council with a good job. For clarification, I am NO longer with Andy Quach. I am now with Joseph Do Vinh the back stabber and the biggest looser in town.
I ASSURE YOU GUYS IT’S NOT ROXANNE CHOW RESPONDING TO ALL THESE REDICULOUS POSTS. THE LAST I HEARD SHE’S BEEN VERY ILL AND CURRENTLY OUT OF COMMISSION, I DONT’ THINK SHE’S IN EVEN IN THE COUNTRY AT THE MOMENT, MANY OF US HAVEN’T EVEN SEEN HER AROUND. SHE IS A VERY ADMIRABLE WOMAN, SHE’S DONE MORE THAN MOST OF US HAVE FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND BEYOND. SHE’S MORE INVOLVED IN CHARITY THAN POLITICS AND I THINK FOR THOSE OF YOU HIDING BEHIND THIS BLOG, USING HER NAME TO BLOG AND TRYING TO SABOTAGE HER REPUTATION, YOU ARE JUST WAISTING YOUR TIME. AS FAR AS ANDY QUACH IS CONCERN, THAT WEBSITE THAT YOU ARE POSTING IS AS OLD AS NEWS OF THE CATRINA. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST HIM, TAKE IT UP WITH HIM FACE TO FACE, OTHERWISE, DON’T USE SOMEBODY ELSE’S NAME TO ATTACK HIM. WHAT A COWARD, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAME FO YOURSELF. AS FOR DINA NGUYEN, DURING THE SUPERVISORIAL CAMPAIGN, I’VE COME TO REALIZED THAT SHE’S NOT A QUALIFIED INDIVIDUAL FOR THE JOB, THAT’S THE PROFFESSIONAL SIDE OF IT, AS FAR AS PERSONAL LIFE WITH ANDY QUACH, WE’VE COMMENT ENOUGH ABOUT IT, NOW MOVE ON. SHE’S TRYING HARD TO CORRECT A LOT OF HER MISTAKES AND WE SHOULD AT LEAST GIVE HER THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. TRUONG DIEP, LIKE MANY OF YOU, I DONT’ TRUST THE GUY WILL DO A VERY GOOD JOB BECAUSE HE’S VAN TRAN NUMBER PROTOGE. BUT, IN RECENT MONTHS HE’S IMPROVE QUITE A BIT. I THINK WHAT WOULD BE GOOD IS FOR US TO KEEP THIS SITE CLEAN OF TRASH TALK ABOUT THESE INDIVIDUALS AND LETS BE MORE PRODUCTIVE. WE SHOULD PUT TOGETHER A GROUP LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH EXCEPT THIS WILL BE FOCUSING ON THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OF WESTMINSTER TO MAKE SURE THERE’S NO CORRUPTION OR BACK DOOR DEALING. AGAIN, IF YOU WISH TO ATTACK THESE INDIVIDUALS, HAVE IT OUT FACE TO FACE AND IF YOU DARE SPEAK THAN USE YOUR IDENTITY!!!
I absolutely agreed with C Vo, these individuals or an individual with multiple personality, sitting by a computer pretending to be Roxanne, Dina, Junk Kim… so on so forth becuase she or he is bitter or jealous with these people… LET’S KEEP IT CLEAN, BE MATURE AND USE THIS SITE TO DISCUSS MATTER OF IMPORTANCE TO US AND OUR COMMUNITY AT LARGE. I say Congrats to Truong Diep and let’s give him the benefit of the doubt that he will do a good job.
I wouldn’t be surprise if it’s JOSEPH DO VINH or someone in the trannies camp is doing all this dirty talks. What a bunch of loosers. REALLY, GET A REAL JOB.
No Janet, these idiots are from your SA garage…….where do you find these losers?
The maturity starts from respect….without respect, you will find jungle out there with bunch of sour loonies soaked in soy sauce.
Lynsy Poopsey, I am not surprised if you are Janet or dress wearing Andrew!