Madison won, beat back recall - but y’all knew that already
March 3rd, 2009
Turns out people don’t need the Bolsavik after all. While the Bolsavik was at orchestra practice, polls closed in San Jose and Councilwoman Madison Nguyen handily won 55-45, according to numbers with all precincts reported here. This blog’s readers were already leaving comments here about the election result, even before the Bolsavik ever made it past his front door.
In another sign that the traditional polling booth may be becoming obsolete day by day, this special election was decided most by mail ballots, with 9,502 people voting by mail and only 2,247 showing up at the precincts.
That’s more than 4-to-1 voting by mail.
Tags: Madison Nguyen, Story Road
March 4th, 2009 at 12:15 am
Madison, congratulations on your triumphant victory! Consider yourself very lucky. You are saved by the general public this time because the LS people are so immoral. Should they be just a little moral, you would never have a chance. So, take this opportunity to learn. Never ever commit any immoral acts that the LS people have committed. Respectfully wishing you the best!
March 4th, 2009 at 4:32 am
Only 2247 people show up at the precincts .lol .This mean LS is a big mouth .
March 4th, 2009 at 4:33 am
Congratulation Madison Nguyen .
March 4th, 2009 at 7:44 am
People hate both Madison and recall backers. She wins just because voters were getting sick of those red-baiters and their bullying tactics. There is no winner today, only losers, and the biggest loser is the Vietnamese community in San Jose. Madison wins, her political position is strengthened. But I have a feeling that it is not over yet.
March 4th, 2009 at 7:51 am
You’re right, they all loser.
March 4th, 2009 at 8:03 am
* It is a humiliation for all Vietnamese everywhere to witness such deep internal division in full public display.
* The demonization of Madison Nguyen by the Recall group has been most fervent and vocal, and permanent.
* San Jose Vietnamese community used to be known as the hard-working silicon valley professionals, now is famous for misguided Ly Tong’s hunger strike, and witch hunt of the former military groups.
* The beauty of Democracy is the people has the ultimate power.
* Beating down the recall does not mean more support for Madison Nguyen, This election is about the rejection of these vocal radical groups.
* Madison Nguyen is still a neophyte in politic that her political future is very questionable.
* For the recall group, plotting the next election strategy means building up a viable candidate for the next election.
* It is very probable Madison Nguyen will lose the next election to a non-Vietnamese because the people in her district is sick of all noisy commotion of Vietnamese mobs
March 4th, 2009 at 8:11 am
good for her! those recall idiots should be ashamed of themselves but i have a feeling they have no shame.
March 4th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Congratulation to Madison Nguyen ! Shame on the recall backers, they made so much noises out of nothing. But I think the battle is not over yet since most of the recall backers have nothing better to do.
March 4th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Congratulation Madison Nguyen,
This is a slap to “the circus” from the real Viet’s community, we dont want the crazy, extremist anti communist sore losers speak for us.
March 4th, 2009 at 10:31 am
The biggest loser in all of this is not the radical, loud mouth, good for nothing LT group. It is the SJ Vietnamese Community as a whole that just lost very big with this whole recall effort and the protesting of “Saigon Business District”. The fall out of this is that Madison will probably lose her seat in the city council two years from now. The residents of SJ that are not Vietnamese will think twice about electing another Vietnamese to any public offices any time soon. We will lose the only voice in the city council that has the Vietnamese community interests in mind.
The Vietnamese community in San Jose just took a step backward because of this recall. The people who are responsible for this recall effort and the protesting in front of the city hall should be ashamed of themselves. They just did a huge disservice to the Vietnamese community and make us the laughing idiot to other ethnic groups.
It is inconceivable to me that a Vietnamese group spearheads a recall and to destroyed a career of a Vietnamese politician in a city where Vietnamese political power is so much needed. Our ancestors are turning in their graves right now.
March 4th, 2009 at 10:35 am
I am glad Madison won. I hope she will continue on to serve residents with humble heart.
Go Madison!
March 4th, 2009 at 10:59 am
http://www.metroactive.com/metro/02.25.09/news-0908.html
Above is an interesting article which sheds some light about Little Saigon SJ saga.
March 4th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
“You are saved by the general public this time because the LS people are so immoral. Should they be just a little moral, you would never have a chance. So, take this opportunity to learn. Never ever commit any immoral acts that the LS people have committed.”
Do you have any idea what immorality means? Do you understand what you write?
The people who wanted out oust Madison exercised their civic rights to recall and Madison Nguyen won the recall fair and square. And that is that. Do not label people who exercise their rights to disagree with your belief immoral.
March 4th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
You guys who are bad-mouthing about people who wanted to recall Madison Nguyen are no different from those who label others communists for disagreeing with them.
While this is a victory to Madison Nguyen, it is not a loss for those who wanted to recall her. And it is not a loss for the Vietnamese community. In fact, those who will be running for office in that particular district will now know very well the Viet community has weight and they better not piss them off, right or wrong.
March 4th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Next time LS should gang up 3,000 members at the vote site .lol .hopefully .
March 4th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
“In fact, those who will be running for office in that particular district will now know very well the Viet community has weight and they better not piss them off, right or wrong.”
I am sorry but I can not see how it is not a lost for the SJ Viet Community. It is a lost for the SJ Viet Community because Madison political aspirations are damaged because of this. It is harder for her to suggest or come up with any new ideas to help the Viet Community without others sitting in the council think that it will create another controversy. She has become a political liability going forward.
More importantly the stigma of SJ Viet community as a group that is ready to protest for any minor things will stick to the mind of many residents in San Jose. They will think twice about voting for another Vietnamese to hold public office going forward.
As for Viet Community has political weight, I beg to differ on that. We might have made a lot of noises with this recall, but it is all within the Viet Community. Outside of the Viet Community, we are as ethnic group is still very weak in term of our political power. Do you think that if a Latino person or African American are elected to that seat, do you think that they will care of what those who wanted to recall Madison have to say or any Vietnamese for that matter. The naming of that little section of Story Road wouldn’t even be an issue because it wouldn’t have come up in the first place.
March 4th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
@ChamPha:
Morality is a concept of righteousness based on fairness.
For religious people, morality comes from Jesus’ teaching, “Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them…” (Bible, Matt. 7: 12).
For non-religious people in Asia, morality comes from Khoo?ng Tu*?’s teaching, “Ky? so*? baa’t du.c, vaa.t thi u* nhaan?” (What you do not want done to yourself, do not do to others.) –Confucius (551-479 BC)
Thus, lying, cheating, deceiving, being malicious, intending to harm other, being unfair, etc., are considered immoral.
March 4th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Strictly speaking, morality and fairness may overlap but are two distinct things. Life is inherently unfair, but not necessarily immoral.
What we are talking about here is what prescribes in a democratic system. You elect someone and if you are unhappy with him/her then you can attempt recall him/her. The recall election of Madison Nguyen followed what the system says. Yes, some individuals bad-mouthed her, but overall everything followed the rule. There are no immoral acts in this political process.
March 4th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
LS people have just execised their political process by loud mouth ,bad mouth ,stinky mouth,propaganda…. .Yes ,it is immorally to call them immorality .lol .
March 4th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Can we start another recall campaign to recall Madison now? Anyone knows if the system allow us to do that? If so, I can start going around collecting signatures this weekend at Paloma cafe.
March 4th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
The next candidate for the Recall group would be :
DO VAN QUANG MINH, ATTORNEY AT LAW
He is aggressive, well-connected, and VERY articulate.
Just two years to the next election is enough to build up his political base.
March 4th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Country First,
AND he brags about being the first Vietnamese American lawyer who graduated from a US high school.
March 4th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Bragging seems to be very common with politicians. As long as those records are correct ! ! !
March 4th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
[...] Jose Councilwoman Madison Nguyen failed. She “handily won 55-45,” according to the Bolsavik blog. This is a huge blow to Orange County Supervisor Janet Nguyen. Why, you might ask? Because [...]
March 5th, 2009 at 7:16 am
Who’s care? and don’t give a sh**t!
March 5th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
So What!,
What the hell is Janet Nguyen and Andrew Do doing in San Jose trying to stir up trouble when they canm’t get their job done right in Orange County? Don’t they have enough problems in the OC, other than to worry about San Jose and the recall that have nothing to do with them?
It’s bad taste and politically stupid for them. But that’s how they work. Full of anger, pettiness, stupidity.
Madison Nguyen kicked some ass and it should send a message to the pro-recall nuts and fruits that they don’t represent anyone. So much for the power of hot air.
March 6th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Who’s Ma_dï_son? Oh, that ugly nut w/9 fongers.
Who give the f**k!!!
March 6th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
It’s not finished yet. We will raise money to recount the recall.
March 7th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Don’t take it personally, but here in the O.C., it’s the local news we are interested in.
San Jose political potpourri is just peripheral knowledge pulling about the same attention as the prospect of a giant toxic entity destroying our country (an asteroid, not Rush Limbaugh).
By now it was obvious, she pulled it out.
Poor Madison, it probably take years before she could wipe the smile off her face.
Why did it happen?
There is an old saying “If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
It began when she was simply listening (???) to that deep-seated female instinct to say no to something. Then there was the rumor of a conspiracy theory. Somewhere along the line, kooks and nuts became the leaders, and leaders became louders, and finally… the lesson learned.
Democracy is not about mob rule, and when has the mob ever made a good choice?
However, she was partly to blame for it. To most outsiders, why such a big fight over a few words (“Little Saigon” vs “Saigon Business District”). The explanation that the diminutive “Little” demeaned the area was the worst way of thinking. Wow. You go, girl. How come Bill Gates is not very touchy about “Micro” and “Soft”.
The result was not that surprising. Of course, one could say that hindsight is 20-20. On this postmortem buzz, it can be said “They loved each other because they shared a dream…but they hated each other because there wasn’t enough of it to go around.”
March 8th, 2009 at 8:25 am
* The Recall was a referendum NOT on Madison Nguyen, but ABOUT the radicalization of local business name dispute by Ly Tong’s theatrical hunger strike.
* Madison Nguyen certainly lacks political sensibility, within her own community. It will be exploited by other candidates, especially non-Vietnamese, in the 2010 election.
* Locally, Ngo Ky should learn ( from Ly tong’s defeat ) the limits of his extortion plot.
It remands people of children’s temper tantrum : If mom does not buy ice cream, child will scream in the middle of the supermarket.
March 8th, 2009 at 10:59 am
This piece of news is relevant to all Vietnamese…
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/politics/little-saigon-communist-menace/
Court Slaps Little Saigon Red-Baiter
Tuesday, Mar. 3 2009 @ 3:06PM
By R. Scott Moxley in Main, Moxley, Politics
The decades-old Little Saigon sport of falsely labeling a fellow Vietnamese immigrant “a Communist” if that person doesn’t share your right-wing politics now finally has consequences…
March 8th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Little Saigon Red-Baiters Sinh Cuong Cao and Ngo Ky are terrorists.
March 8th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Tien Huynh and Mob-ass,
Citing the OC Weekly as an authoritative source is like using old toilet paper, boys. This is the same rag that defend Tran Truong, despite its refusal to accept its own naivety and stupidity. Try flying a Commie flag down Bolsa and see how far you get.
You are just frustrated and angry because the anti-commie crowd still rule and will continue to rule LS. Get used to it.
March 8th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
We will get used to it until more of idiots come out of the wood work and get their behinds sued. Then they will cry injustice? Typical coward move like the VN d–che bag who holds the highest office in OC.
March 8th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Underboss, wait until the local politicans are out of office and do not have their political clout. See what the same crowd and counterparts are going to do to your reputation. You definitely don’t have the financial support of your party to protect your reputation. Let me guess, you and your people are going to carry out home invasions and physical abuse mobster style or hire the street thugs to carry out your agenda on rivals? I pray you do, so the FBI can put you and all of your cronies behind bars. Go ahead and keep talking your filthy trash and enjoy while your political party still supports you financially.
March 8th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Underboss,
Get used to WHAT ? your branch of communist ! ! !
You commie rats get out of here ! ! !
March 8th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
@Underboss
The OC Weekly is just a media agency reporting a ruling from the Superior Court of California-County of Orange. Where are you living? People Republic of Bolsa? Is it located somewhere in California? For your education, in California, the Superior Court of California is THE authority.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Tien Huynh and all the Billy Jack asses that follow him,
Read the story again. Even in the OC Weekly. Kim Oanh did not win jack (nor Billy) other than given the permission to continue her wasteful lawsuit in which she’ll lose and get nothing in the end. It’s a simple ruling that means little. Why read so much into nothing?
KO already got KO’d by the Westminster School District and the other defendants that she sued for 1 Million. That’s the kids’ milk money boys. This lady is a joke.
Calling the OC Weekly a “media agency” is like believing that Obama is related to Saddam because both share the name, “Hussein”. At least readers know of your naive ways.
Tien Huynh and Billy Jack Asses do think alike.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
@Underboss
I re-read the story and here is the excerpt: “But in a key side legal issue, Cao last year asked the state court of appeal based in Santa Ana to overturn Orange County Superior Court Judge Charles Margines’ ruling that the evidence was strong that Cao slandered Nguyen-Lam with actual malice–meaning the false labeling was made recklessly with the intent to cause public scorn.”
Now re-read the excerpt, what did judge Charles Margines of the Superior Court rule?
Answer: Judge Margines ruled that the evidence was strong that Cao slandered Nguyen-Lam with actual malice.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Evidently Tien Huynh and Billy Goat/ Jack Ass Mix ….are cluless lowering our gene pool standard average. You can not brand good anti communist people with false names found in OC Weekly.
I won’t be surprised if you guys bring something out from PennySaver’s advertisement articles next time.
Commies are NOT welcomed in this country. Got it? The think clear!
March 8th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Hey Billy Goat/Jack Ass Mix, our FBI agents are trained to detain and arrest anti freedom commies….in your case I will order my FBI agents to cage you at SA Zoo near female goats.
What can I say…. your dream can come true with lots of prayers! Have a good time spending these cold nights with warm toasty plump female goats.
March 8th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Tien Huynh,
Let’s wait for the final court rulling. This is far from over. I wouldn’t bet a dollar on this case, or get overly excited by a court’s first ruling.
March 8th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
@Jung Kim
I just cited a piece of news without injecting any of my personal opinion. If you like to attack people or attack things, then go ahead to attack judge Margines or his ruling. I did not attack Cao, or Underboss, or Jung Kim, or any other people in this blog. Your attack on me was uncalled for.
March 8th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
I understand, you are OK……it’s Billy Goat/Jack Ass who got me excited with his dumb remarks.
March 8th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Jung Kim, you also get excited looking at your boss’ bollocks (sounds like the Underboss) so keep staring at them! You and your leader are among the many aholes going around accusing people of being commie and pro-commie. Keep doing what you have been doing (staring and most likely feeling your boss) to calm yourself.
March 8th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
@UnderBoss
[On February 26, a three-justice court of appeal panel backed Margines' ruling. Cao "held himself out as having inside knowledge about [Nguyen-Lam]” when all he knew about her he’d read in newspapers and “nothing in those reports hinted she was a Communist,” concluded justices Richard M. Aronson, David G. Sills and Kathleen O’Leary.]
Per above excerpt, the California Court of Appeal already ruled to uphold the California Superior Court’s ruling.
Perhaps the Court of Appeal’s ruling is final regarding the issue of slander unless Cao could appeal to the California Supreme Court.
March 8th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Tuesday, March 03, 2009Last Update: 10:07 AM PT
School Candidate Can
Add Actual Malice Claim
(CN) - A school superintendent candidate became a victim of actual malice when school board members were told she was a Communist, a California appeals court ruled. The Westminster School District rescinded the appointment of Kimoanh Nguyen-Lam as the country’s first Vietnamese school superintendent.
Nguyen-Lam filed a defamation suit, blaming Sinh Cuong Cao for the loss of the position. The plaintiff claimed that Cao called her a Communist in a phone call to board members and repeatedly republished the false statement.
The trial court allowed Nguyen-Lam to amend her complaint to include actual malice, finding that she demonstrated a probability that she would prevail on the merits of her case.
Cao appealed the amendment to include actual malice under the anti-SLAPP law, claiming that being called a Communist is no longer a slanderous statement and is therefore not actionable.
The 4th District Court of Appeal denied Cao’s motion to strike the amendment to the lawsuit.
“The policy concerns against amendment in the anti-SLAPP context do not apply because the plaintiff’s suit - shown to be likely meritorious - is not a strategic lawsuit against public participation,” Justice Aronson wrote.
“Even assuming that defendant is correct that the Communist epithet should not be considered slander per se,” Aronson added, “plaintiff demonstrates actual damages - she lost her job.”
March 8th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
I hope that somehow the Cao guy admits ties to people in high places and was either paid or coerced into commit this act, so Ms. Nguyen-Lam can collect from those people too. The house of card has to be brought down for the betterment of the community.
March 9th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Billy Goat/Jack Ass, you can keep hoping lousy unskilled Lam can find a waitress job… only if she is lucky.
March 9th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Lam’s blurred vision lead to this crazy law suit.
If you are unable to be hired as a CEO in any company/entity…. just sue them! What a retarded mentality……just ask for food stamp and unemployment check Lam!
Billy Goat/Jack Ass even gets free toilet papers from the state. Can you please share them with greedy Lamb?
March 9th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Billy Goat/Jack Ass Mix….. remember I am the official guru therefore I don’t have boss…….. and I don’t sue people to get a job.
March 9th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
” According to the Recall Committee, Son Nguyen is not taking a lead role in the campaign. But he has taken a strong anti-Madison stand. Son Nguyen leases airtime on KVVN-AM, where he has reportedly used his Vietnamese-language talk show to run pro-recall material on the air for free. ” from http://www.metroactive.com/metro/02.25.09/news-0908.html
I think Son Nguyen (father of linda nguyen ,the real estate developer) whom opens the air talk show is a guy behind the game .He is the joker .
March 9th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Son Nguyen Nguyen Ngoc Tien Barry Doan Do Van Quang Minh .Why these guys left VN for when they fit in the communist talent.The #1 talent they’ve got is LIE .With that talent they should stay back home and become members of the communist party .
March 9th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Bossavik,
I don’t know where you got the election results chart shown above, but according to Santa Clara County election results is not matched with your.
wazup?
March 9th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Andrew Do was seen in San Jose shouting anti Madison slur….. or was he looking for another bad sandwich shop investment location? This one reminds me of a lost taxi cab driver.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Cao,u so stupid .
March 9th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Now we all know what the commie and anti-commie call signs are…Male encounters (Boy George style). We notice the high male concentration in the Jung Kim and Jung Kim leader organization. When the call sign is put out, all the lady boys get together.
Good thing Jung Kim blogs, rather than take on the air. Difficult to speak with his leader’s member in his mouth all the time.
Keep sucking one another boys!
Only scumbags would use the commie and pro-commie lines to injure another person’s reputation without proof.
March 9th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Yo Billy Jack! Is that why Jung Kim’s leader has that huge gut - from all the high “protein” drinks? Is it from Corona or T-Rack or both and others?
March 10th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Billy Goat/Jack Ass Mix….. keep rotating tiny eyeballs looking for the truth because you have long miles to walk and discover the path of revered man hood.
Do not refer me as leader…I don’t have domesticated animals as my followers…I just eat them in the dinner table.
March 10th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Billy Goat/Jack Ass Mix……… is a “confused one” who wants to have boy george’s make up but still wants to harvest kid’s little balls. We need to lock this one up before he makes it on the ch.9’s “America’s most wanted” list.
March 10th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Andrew Do said he might run against Madison …someone thinks he made these special trips seeking for San Jose mailing address.
He must been dumped by the cutie from FV.
March 10th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Jung Kim, my great leader!
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Everyone%20Else/pages/Kim-Jong-il%20-dead-Replaced-by-Puppet-Scrape-TV-The-World-on-your-side.html
March 11th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Hey Ly Tong aka Andrew’s significant other, your boy friend Andrew Do Do will be cooking for his cell mates in N.Korea next week.
March 11th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Jung Kim, I want to have your sperms and make 10 little Kims…
Love,
Octumom
March 11th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Andrew wants to be a donor for your flat tummy.
March 12th, 2009 at 11:34 am
IVF, hahaha that’s funny.
March 12th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
You may be right that I do not know what “revered man hood” is, but I am glad that Jung Kim found it in his leader and it is in his mouth. Who is his leader?
Jung Kim Says:
November 21st, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Assemblyman Van Tran has been our pride and joy for many years in representing our interests.
Thank you Mr. Van Tran!
March 12th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Is Ly Tong on Welfare? Shame on Vietnamese, they are the losers.
March 12th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
@ Neutral
You’re dead wrong, the Vietnamese are smart . . . they found a loop hole in the welfare system and know how to use it , and the welfare system is stupid enough to give it to them.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Billy Goat/Jack Ass Mix, I understand you want to become my follower but unless you repent from the bottom of your heart…you shall remain as lost animal soul.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Billy Goat/Jack Ass Mix, what you have in your mouth is your filthy borwn stained pinky.
March 13th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Andrew Do Do wanted to become my driver the other day….. I sent him back to Janet.