What should have been a straightforward ceremony turned into a political foodfight that’s escalating day by day.
Among the rituals of Viet elected officials is to show up on Black April and pay respect at the altar to soldiers who died – or sometimes an altar to the country. Like OC Supervisor Janet Nguyen (far right) and Westminster councilman Tri Ta (left) in the photo above, taken in 2009.
It’s just the way it’s been for years. And since the Westminster Vietnam War Memorial was erected about 9 years ago, that site has become the place to be on the day that commemorates the fall of Saigon.
This year, instead of just showing up at a ceremony, Janet Nguyen apparently wanted to hold one of her own.
So she applied for and received an “Intent to Meet” permit to hold the Black April event. (Click on pic to view larger size in new window.) An “Intent to Meet” is almost as good as an event permit, except that you can only have less than 300 people, and you can’t have a sound system.
Which may be a problem because most Black April events pull in 1000+ in attendance.
It is assumed that the Supervisor opted for the lesser permit because it doesn’t require a hearing before the City Council, where three members are Viets that Janet Nguyen doesn’t like. Or trust. Or something like that.
OK, so far so good. Until Lactan Nuygen, the president of the “Vietnamese-American Community of Southern California” (one of several with names like that) tried to apply for a Special Event permit. He found out the Supervisor already has the place to herself on April 30.
So, he called Janet Nguyen, and things spiraled downward from there.
Nuygen said he couldn’t talk to the Supervisor, her staff wouldn’t talk to him, they wouldn’t return his calls.
Nguyen and her staff, however, said they were called while in Washington DC – so they couldn’t talk and, besides, they couldn’t jump at the beck and call of whoever! (That’s an almost exact translation of what Nguyen’s chief of staff Andrew Do said.)
One thing led to another, and now both sides are point fingers accusing the other of trying to monopolize Black April. The Register’s Deepa Bharath had a report here on March 19.
And into all that stepped two Westminster Councilmembers, Frank Fry and Andy Quach.
On March 22 they invited a number of community groups to meet and work out something. Not much got worked out, many still want to just kick Janet Nguyen out of the commemoration. Protest leader Neil Nguyen said that no individual has the right to interfere in an event that belongs to the community, just like an individual “cannot organize a Cinquo de Mayo celebration” – which is almost certainly not true.
As the discussion wore on, however, Bruce Tran took over the meeting.
Actually, at first the head of VHN-TV (and candidate for Westminster mayor, as soon as he finishes moving from Garden Grove) started shouting, demanding that the councilmen use their power to revoke Janet Nguyen’s permit.
“And if your power isn’t good enough, we’ll take it away from you,” Tran said.
When the shouting got a little out of hand, Fry took it as a threat and wanted him removed.
So Tran argued that “it’s not a threat, a threat is when someone puts a gun to your head.”
But nonetheless he sat down for a few minutes.
And then he stood up again, and started talking loudly again. He demanded that something be done about Janet Nguyen’s permit. Like yanking it or something.
And then he suddenly because the de facto chair of the meeting. People only talked when he wasn’t. He directed the flow of discussion. He even interpreted Frank Fry’s statements for him.
Check the video below. It’s simply amazing how Tran faced more than a dozen community leaders and two elected officials and seized the floor from all of them.
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The November election will have a barrage of attack mail between the Janet candidate, her hubby Tom, and the Van candidate, Bruce Tran, what a waste. I fail to see how either faction has helped the community as a whole.
Andrew Do should be recalled due to poor performance and the alarming fact that he does not live in Garden Grove.
That’s the point, both the Trannies & Jannies are thinking only for themselves. We voters should question ourselvelves : Should we give them anymore power to continue their fighting? And what’s good will that do to our community?
Nothing! Absolutely nothing!
Should we give our votes to Loretta so she has more free times to play with lobbyists in bed? That would make our Congresswan very satisfied, don’t you think so?
I didn’t vote for Loretta nor did I vote for slutty Dina. We don’t need whores in politic.
I also heard that Nick Lecong has been ferrying some of VN top commies’ concubines here for their unofficial trips. Their favorite places include SouthCoast Plaza And Las Vegas. Can Bolsavik check our his sources in VN to follow up this news?
Nick Le Cong = BAD NEWS!
The time to recall Andrew Do is NOW! I will personally walk streets to get the necessary signatures. This however must be a group effort and for the right reasons….as in he is just a guy who wants to argue and disrespect everyone…and if allowed to remain in office, it will only get worse.. Are we finally pissed off enough at this Santa Ana resident. I am!
May be, just may be, let Kim Jung and/or Da Thug meet him on the street to beat him up into a pulp?
The way Kim Jung and Da Thug talk on this blog with such bravado and such ‘HATREDS’ and such ‘DIRTY’ and ‘STREET THUGGISH LANGUAGE’ (I am using K/J and D/T verbiage here) against this guy, it should be a good brawl for all to see. LOL.
Or may be, KJ and DT are all ‘talk but no action’.
It’s very funny!
Councilman Andrew Do disrespected the Vietnamese students with his thinly veiled threats to prosecute their non-profit. These students volunteer numerous hours for the community. They are our future and work to better the community for everyone. Mr. Do should learn from them.
Bo May, I am sure you would tell idiot from Santa Ana.. Andrew Do to resign
as well.
Can’t tell him to resign even if I am the President of the United Of America.
Recall is such a stupid idea, remember Madison Nguyen mess? …..hm hm lemme see….
I could buy him off with my money, though, only if wants to resign on his own accord with my million dollars sent to his account.
You guys go beat him up pretty good then I will pay him a few mil so he can go away.
You can buy Andrew Do off with money? We didn’t know…….
Recall idiot Andrew Do!
Nah, just kidding.
I would rather spend the money on your pipe dream of a homeless shelter (1mil?) or a viet libary (another mil?).
As I as I’m concerned, Andrew Do is toasted, he will go soon. So will the rest of the incompetent, power grabbers, good for nothin’ viet public servants (van tran is included).
Do you have any favorite public figure Bo May?
Quang Pham.
Jung,
Finally we agree on something! Do must go!
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Judging all the comments on this Black April commemoration blog, one can summarily conclude these Vietnamese factions in Little Saigon hate each others than they actually hate communists.
These “anti-commie” slogans are only the public pretense to destroy each other.
A anti-commie is actually a commie lover.
@ Fall of Saigon;
We have found the enemy and they are us.
* In 1975 Saigon did not fall because of Hanoi military power; but because the collapse of Saigon leadership.
* In 2010 Little Saigon will fall, NOT because of Hanoi’s propaganda, but because the implosion of Little Saigon, with vicious/barbaric attacks from within.
“We have found the enemy ! and they are us ! ”
As stated
Bo May and Fall,
Not really. The enemy is just the two of you.
BO May is our enemy.
He hates/ashamed being a Viet.
Art Pedroza hates idiot Andrew Do? Why?
Why did I already have the notion that there will be a bunch of denials like Jung Kim and Just asking who will jump in here in a hurry to give more of the same: ‘vicious/barbaric attacks from within’.
Can’t learn new things in life if your cup are already full of sh!t.
This is why we need to tell the truth to the masses. Conversely, this is why some van tran followers do not want the truth and they will jump in here to call everyone viet hater.
History repeats itself, more so in the little saigon group (sighs…)
@Bo May 10:32 am, are you confused? Why are you grouping me with those idiots Van’s followers?
Sorry, Just Asking;
I meant Just Answering.
mea culpa,
mea culpa,
mea maxima culpa.
Bo May,
Does not matter how many mea culpas you do. You are just a hateful and despicable person. Ugliness defined as Bo May!
Bo May regrets he is a Viet. A typical loser’s mentality.
I am an American first and foremost.
I see losers like yourself should not call others losers.
I see hateful people like you should not call others hateful.
I see despicable like you should not call others despicable.
I may be a viet but not in the same group with losers like you and….all of the viet politicians in OC. (van tran is included)….unless you want to whore for votes, of course.
Are you proud of being a viet with what going on in that little saigon of yours, kimmy?
Bo May. Like what Just Asnwering said about you. You are just a hateful or and despicable person.
All you do on this blog is bitch and moan. You have not done jack. You are one of those people who hate other successful Viets. You are a Viet crab that needs to be cooked red!
Bo May, why being an anus when you can suck? Ha ha ha!!
I see more losers than successful viets in this blog.
Don’t blame me, man.
Blame it on the Bolsavik, they hang the dirty viet garments out for all to see.
Bo May,
Why the hate man? If you think there is dirty laundry, in your warped opinion, then wash it, instead of pooping your poop on it. You are a sick dog.
Wash it? Huh?
Sometime viets, specially those who are in denial, need to face the ugly truth before they can move on, for that I appreciated what the Bol has been doing here.
Bo May, why shit on your own when you can wash and make things cleaner? May be you like the smell of your own poop. You are one sick dog.
Nah. You are talking sh!t here not me.
Your cup is too full of it! empty it first then you can learn new things and move forward. Why cover your eyes with the delusion of a viet grandeur?
People like you and Jung Kim just go to town with all kinda dirty language to intimidate whoever come off with a speck of doubts to van tran.
We are blogging here;
Bolsavik.com
All Viet, all the time
Bo May Says:
April 5th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
“I am an American first and foremost.” But all day he blogs here at Bolsavik because he has nowhere to go.
What a loser!
Bo May, who wants to learn your hate and your self-mutilation. You are just a sick dog who is unhappy with his lot. You don’t belong out here. You belong in a mental institution Bo May.
Nope, I am still here, just showing you guys the un-becoming of an once proud viet community, how it was destroyed by the so-called community leaders.
1. They are not ‘leaders’, they are just public servants. They were elected to do the jobs as they were cut out for them to do.
2. Those who speak proudly of them like you are also guilty of the pillaging they (and their associates) have committed.
By the way I am an American first and foremost and I do have concerns, Little Saigon is a part of the American, is it not? It is not owned by the Vietnamese. May be Andy Quach and Tyle Diep, Van Tran, the rest of the vietnamese-americans public servants and you cronies would think otherwise. (sighs)
Hey Bo May, I don’t see you blogging OC Register about “american concern”!
Do you lack confidence in writing for your “Foremost Americans”… with your yellow skinned flat nose or is it your asian trait small eyes bothering you?
Be glad your parents are proud Viets and they also support our Assemblyman Van Tran!
http://www.joinvantran.org
Funny post, keep on chanting, kimmy.
Keep on bragging that you are self- worship american foremost!
can’t understand what you are sayin’
Bo May, why are you keep wasting your times on these fools? When they don’t get … they just don’t get it.
Hahaha, you are right Tequila, I will have a shot glass of that.
You just remind me of the great Louis Armstrong’s quote:
“There are some people that if they don’t know, you can’t tell ‘em.”
Bo May,
Still ranting your ka ka? Hate is staring you back in the mirror.
The enemy is not us. It is Bo May. He hates Viet leaders. Jealousy I guess. Bo May’s another Viet crab. No better.
I don’t see any viet leaders. Do you?
Reading all the blogs here on the Bol, I don’t see one.
Are you on some thin’ like the WHITE POWER guy on the other blog?
Bo May, you should be happy being a Viet crab rather being a Van’s follower who’s eating his crap.
Bo May, you should be happy that you are a “full time” loser!
Arturo Pedroza always wants to eat my crap?
When are you running
for the city council AGAIN?