OC Supervisor Janet Nguyen and her allies were on the losing end Wednesday night at the Westminster City Council meeting, when the council decided to divide the use of the Vietnam War Memorial, forcing the two factions to time-share.
What makes the Former Political Prisoners, the Yellow Flag Youths (Vietnamese: Thanh Niên Cờ Vàng), and Supervisor Nguyen the losing side, is that the other party was given the 5 o’clock slot – which is the time the Supervisor originally planned, and invited people, for her event.
You can check the invitation online here. That web site, the Trach Nhiem (“Duty”) online magazine, is the official newsletter of the Former Political Prisoners of Vietnam (in Vietnamese “Khu Hội Cựu Tù Nhân Chính Trị Việt Nam“), Southern California chapter. Along with the Yellow Flag Youths, they are part of the almost 30 groups that back Janet Nguyen in this dispute.
Read the background here and Register’s story on the council meeting here.
Janet Nguyen had had a valid permit to use the space for the whole day of April 30, called “Black April,” when Vietnamese everywhere remembers the day Saigon fell to the communist forces.
To get around the City Council — on which sits three Viets that the Supervisor doesn’t like, or doesn’t trust, or both — she went for an “intent to meet” permit.
It doesn’t require Council approval, and it’s almost as good as an event permit, except that you can’t have more than 300 people.
Which can be a problem because most Black April events in Orange County pull in at least a thousand.
When another group, commonly believed to be unfriendly to Janet Nguyen, tried to get the park, they found out she’d had it reserved for months. The group’s head, Lactan Nuygen, called Nguyen’s office, then things spiraled downward from there. Read more here.
The City then asked the two groups to meet with the City Manager and try to reach a compromise. By this time, the Nuygen camp has gathered its own set of allies.
At the meeting in the City Manager’s office, the two sides arrived at an agreement and came out smiling, hand in hand. Reportedly, Janet Nguyen’s side agreed to invite everyone to join her for the ceremony and Nuygen’s group gets to chair the organizing committee.
And then things went bad as soon as the groups left the building. At the very next meeting, the two factions couldn’t agree on who would speak first.
Janet Nguyen’s side claimed the agreement made in the City Manager’s office included having her speak first, in exchange for Nuygen’s group getting to be the chair. The other side said there’s no such agreement, and they would agree to the first speaker being anyone but Janet.
So back to the City they went, and on April 14 the council said the two sides ought to agree to something or the council will do it for them.
Nothing happened, and it’s at the April 21 that the City Council decided to split the baby. It passed 3-1-1, with the three Viets voting for (Tri Ta, Tyler Diep, Andy Quach), Councilman Frank Fry against, and Mayor Margie Rice abstaining.
The resolution says Janet Nguyen gets to be at the War Memorial between 9am and 4pm, and the other side gets 5pm to 9pm.
Which sucks for the Supervisor, because she’s been inviting people for 5pm.
Saying that Janet Nguyen had done nothing wrong – that she’d applied for her permit fair and square, and that this makes a bad precedent where a city gives something and then takes it back – Mayor Rice refused to back the timeshare solution.
Said she, “I will not be controlled by a group of people who think they run this city. I will not bend under pressure.”
Then she added, “This is America, not Vietnam.” Which is a little puzzling but, hey, most people have other fish to fry.
jose.s, Tan moved to ocean side ………to patrol our shoreline defending our state against your brothers from different mothers jumping in the ocean like migrating fat smelts
hey honky, you claimed to be a veteran you disgrace real veterans who actually served obviously you’re a liar and a blowhard who makes threats over a computer what does that make you? and jung kim i’m sorry to say your hero tan nguyen ran to oceanside with his communist tail between his legs because he’s a coward. he only came back to litter our streets with his puke green signs and to con the easily conned viet community. and fyi, i was born in america unlike you and if either of you dont like it here you can always go back? both of you are such an embarrassment to the viet community.
YOU STILL A FUCKING BEANER TO ME.
GO BACK TO TJ AND BE A TOUT IN FRONT OF A STRIP JOINT YOU WETBACK.
JOSE
WHY DON’T YOU JOIN THE ARMY?
THEY ARE DESPERATE FOR NEW RECRUIT RIGHT NOW.
YOU CAN BE SEAN MILL’S NEW BOYFRIEND.
Okay Honky donkey, since you were in the military then you must be unemployed and uneducated.
JOSE
YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW WHERE CAMP CASEY AND CAMP STANLEY IS DON’T YOU?
THAT JUST PROVE YOU ARE THE FUCKING WETBACK LIAR.
I AM NOT A VIET YOU FUCKING MORON.
WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU MORON?
THE US ARMY IS MADE UP OF MOSTLY UNEDUCATED YOUNG BLACK MEN.
JUST JOIN THE ARMY AND BE ALL YOU CAN BE.
THEY RAPE AND MURDER WHENEVER THEY CAN.
JUST BECAUSE I AM A US VETERAN MEANS I HAVE TO SUPPORT ALL US VETERAN.
I AM HERE TO DEBUNK THE MYTH THAT ALL AMERICAN ARE HEROES.
THAT IS JUST BULLSHIT.
CORRECTION
I AM HERE TO DEBUNK THE MYTH THAT ALL US VETERAN ARE HEREOS.
I SHOULD KNOW BECAUSE I AM ONE OF THEM.
2ND INFANTRY DIVISION CAMP CASEY 1981-1983.
SECOND TO NONE AND ALL THAT BULLSHIT.
jose.s, we have a bill pending to revoke your citizenship and send you back home with your papa.
Honky donkey, there’s always heroes in every war. You just happen not to be one of them. According to your attitude, you sound more like one of the rapist at the My Lai masscacre.
I HEARD ABOUT THE MY LAI INCIDENT FROM MY OWN SERGEAN MAJOR WHO WAS THERE YOU MORON.
SEAN MILL AND JOSE= BRAIN WASHED DUMMIES.
YEAH I AM A US VETERAN SERVING HONORABLY IN SOUTH KOREA.
NOW YOU CAN SUCK MY BIG BLACK DICK SEAN AND JOSE.
jose s., and Sean have small mouths to suck on little ones I am afraid.
Deport both of these deformed sickos.
honky you are not a veteran serving anywhere dont lie you make yourself look dumber than you already are. i think you’re one of jung kims multiple personalities that has escaped. if i had a net i would net you and take you back to danang. funny how you say you’re in korea and jung kim takes a korean name…… hmm…..i think you are both one in the same. you are not in korea your on bolsa ave somewhere taking up space in my neighborhood.
WOW JOSE YOU ARE SO DUMB.
DUMB WETBACK LIKE YOU SHOULD BE DEPORTED TO MEHICO WHETHER
YOU ARE ANCHOR BABY OR NOT.
Honky, if you needsomeone to suck your big black dick may I refer my kImmy? O
Oh wait, that might not be a good idea because I heard once you done black, you never go back.
LIE? I NEVER POST ANYTHING IN THIS BLOG UNTIL NOW.
YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE OF IDIOT LIKE SEAN MILL AND JOSE THE ANCHOR BABY.
well honky why dont you deport me? why dont YOU personally deport me? that would be an interesting trick.
Yeah! Save money and let jose. s. swim back to TJ!
Salmons do that….returning home at the end of trail!
JOSE ARE YOU WASHING DISHES AT 1 OF THOSE VIET RESTAURANT?
BETTER YET YOU SHOULD SWIM BACK TO TJ AND START WORKING AS A TOUT THERE.
JOSE THE ANCHOR BABY=THE TOUT=SEAN MILL=BRAIN WASHED DUMMIES.
ok kids i’d like to stay but real life awaits…..
YEAH I KNOW YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO WASHING THE DISHES AT THOSE VIET RESTAURANTS.
real life waits…….. yeah jose s., having an urge to jump the fence again? Ofcourse, cops/lamigra are after your ass.
Bo May Da Thug: are you stupid as to think that my post is meant to support Janet Nguyen? Are you really that ignorant politically or you just don’t understand English? I’ve no problem with people freely expressing their First Amendment rights; however, they should do it civilly and allow others the same rights. What would you say if someone puts a mock coffin in front of your business to intimidate you because you dared to disagree with them? My post does not bad-mouth the Viet community in Little Saigon, it only reflects a sad truth that the majority of this community has had to endure a long time. Most of us came to America to escape the communist’s oppression; why do we continue to be oppressed by a small minority in this community the likes of you?
actually i had band practice i play the drums it was a lot of fun i love to practice. so jung kim and honky, do you guys have any kind of creative outlet or do you just run at the mouth and act all bitter and stupid all day? because having a creative outlet can be anything not just music and it’s really good for the soul. do you guys have souls? maybe there is no creative side to you losers thats probably why you guys are the way you are. all bitter angry and racist. i’m sorry.
all you people bickering and fighting are stupid. The only one enjoying this conflict and all the other conflicts within Little Saigon are the communists back in VN. And to the racist folk leaving their filthy racist remarks, read about Dien Bien Phu you losers.
Piased Off,
You are one pissy SOB. You whine and groan like a bitch in heat. What do you expect from the Viet community?
Your truth is everyone else’s blatant lie. Go figure moron. Bitch and whine is you. You sounded like that whiner Andrew Do!
@Bo May Da Thug: I will not lower myself down to your level and use profanities; obviously you can’t hold an intelligent and serious debate even hiding behind your computer screen. It’s people with your attitude and mentality that divide this community and cause us to look like fools to the indigenous. If you ever want to have a serious and respectful dialog then come back; otherwise don’t think a few curse words will antagonize me. Run along little boy.
Pissed Off,
When you stopped whining and moaning like a little bitch who did not get her way (sounds like gang boss Janet Nguyen), then you can think about having an intelligent discussion.
Why bitch and moan all the time on this blog? You must have a very unhappy home life!
Jose s,
Jung Kim is an idiot and a total embarrassment to the Vietnamese Vietnamese. Most people on here cannot stand him, so please do not think of him as a representative of the community.
Da Thug; You need to stop barking for a while, it’s not good for your health.
lam pho i dont, but you have to admit there is a very anti latino sentiment with many viets especially the elected ones. i still cant wrap my brain around that one but it is what it is.
Lam Pho, a deserted community skeleton buried twice…….. you need to be whipped again with rice patty.
Said your Guru Jung Kim
jose.s, don’t have guts to move out to your favorite state Arizona?
jose.s. until start acting/thinking like a human being…. your life will be difficult!
Love innocent baby lives and respect family value!
Then spend more quality/quantity time with your children and show them a positive vision for their lives.
Said Official Viet Community Guru Jung Kim.
Lam Pho the homeless beggar is back on this blog.
Lam Pho is teaming up with Bo May and Jose s., the Big A hole Viet hater to stink up this blog. Well, I got news for you. Nothing a bottle of Clorox can’t get rid of.
Get rid of these dirty Viet leaders and these crazy dogs will have no one to bark for!
Just Asking…….. you need to go down with losers on diapers.
dog, I’ll never go down with you that’s for sure!
going with losers on tampons?
Mafia boss Janet Nguyen and her Do Do Bird Andrew and supreme Ayatollah Nick Le Cong were all bitch slapped by the Viet community for a whole minh now. Literally bitch slapped.
Nick Le Cong is always hungry for imaginative power….he wants to become a next king kong poop head.
Get rid of the Godfather Van Tran and the Mafia boss Janet Nguyen then the rest of their followers wouldn’t be doing anymore bitching or crying in this blog.